This is the second one of these denial of care in two days that has caused a pt to permanently alleviate their pain via SUICIDE. That I have heard about.. how many have happened that has not seen the light of day and/or being buried with a death certificate being labeled as a “opiate related death” Why doesn’t more people see that every opiate related DEAth has a common denominator ?
This appeared on another chronic pain FB page :
At around 330 am my cell phone rang and when your phone rings at that time it’s not going to be good, a very good and close personal friend of mine had been found unresponsive in her bathroom by her hubby, one of my best friends and how I met her actually, he thought maybe she had a heart attack and called 911. They get there and get her to the hospital had to shock her 5 times before they called it. Not knowing the reason they had to run to screens and do an autopsy. She was a chronic pain patient who her new PCP told her she was to young to be experiencing that kind of pain and sent her to a Psychiatrist early this week who was very nice and respectful to her and gave her phych meds and a sleeping pill. Her new Dr being a yutz that she is cut her off of her pain meds accept topomax and a muscle relaxer, this down from oxycodone and other meds. She committed suicide early this morning. Her daughter found the note along with all her personal papers including a living will that was DNR, hospital ER staff is not to blame nor the EMT’S because it has not been notorized as of yet. But this Doctor, boy this Doctor she is going to be meeting my lawyer friend I went to High School and some College with and if he can win a case before the supreme court he can kick this Doctors ass. I will also be calling the Bishop Cupich and a very old friend Cardinal Timothy Dolan who started out as a Priest and the Bishop in Milwaukee to get her a dispensation to be buried in consecrated ground and to be able to have her mass and funeral at her Church. So after typing all of this it was to say we have lost another one unable to bear the pain anymore. No she wasn’t in this group she is from Chicago area.
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I hate when Dr sends you to psychiatric Dr and they give you pills and then say we can’t help you no more because it’s my pain and they can’t change that. My pain makes me cry and it’s hard to hold my head up…
My husband is a veteran, the VA has been jerking him around for several years about his opiod pain meds, when the pain management doctor treated him like a criminal in his appt I could keep my mouth shut no longer! I told her ” you have been talking your opinion the entire appt and because he is a Marine and a gentleman he would not interrupt or correct youz I am neither so now you are going to listen to me”. She did but afterwards documented that he was unwilling to adhere to the new opiod policy. I know this because at asppts we go to now people actually ask what he did to get on her bad side or anger her. I tell them the truth, he obliged her for months with the promise that all the changes would get better, the pain would be controllable…..all lies, they have had him on these meds for 15 years and suddenly they aren’t necessary, whatever, there is an agenda, a number that needs to be met. Sick to death of this bullshit, all the MRIS show the stenosis and degenerative spine disease is worse but they keep jerking him around. People need to wake up and challenge these folks, myvMarine did his duty and know they treat him like a drug seeking criminal!
There will be more deaths now because of the DEA than there ever were due to the fake opioid crisis. And SO much suffering. People who don’t have chronic pain can’t understand why death can sometimes seem like a better option. I’m so pissed about this war on pain patients….
Doctors should be held responsible but never are. I had a doctor ( Sparks in Traverse city) get angry with me because I wanted more help then pills now that lawyers were no longer calling all the shots in a week, and she cut all my meds in half ( and I was unable to go to court after 8 years of legal hell so it cost me my settlement. I not only had unbelievable pain, I lost my chance of ever getting the help I need. Nothing I can do..) I don’t understand why anyone feels they have the right to make me suffer and I don’t get why others think it is any of third business.More are going to take their lives if this continues.
i know just how your friend felt. I got a phone call from the VA a few days back – “we are going to be reducing your pain meds” – she went on to start to tell me about the CDC. I asked her to stop for a minute – respectively, I told her that the CDC does allow for the continuation of pain meds for severe pain.. I knew this was coming and started weaning myself down from 210 mg a day (which, by the way, is only enough to allow me to move around and function. I still have an 8 – 9 level of pain. My legs and knees feel as if they are on fire. ON FIRE. Almost all day – and as the sun goes down and I move less – I have to keep myself from screaming when I stand up and try to walk. My other half has cancer. He had it in one lung – they operated – it has been nearly a year…. the only way they found the cancer was because they kept giving him meds for stomach and bowel trouble – never ONCE seeing him and no matter how many phone calls and visits where he said the side of his lung hurt (to which his PA said: Lungs don’t hurt) – now this guy has bronchiectisis (can’t spell it) – and the fluid in his lungs was never drained until he had surgery – his PA NEVER IN THE 10 YEARS we have been here – had an x-ray taken of his lungs an that is the reason he had a medical discharge…. So – the pain in his gut is so bad he finally says – call 911, I’m not going to make it to the hospital in the car sitting up (the local hospital is only 3 or 4 miles away. Withing 45 minutes of getting there they tell him the gut problem is from C-Diff. And we want to take a complete x-ray of your lungs/chest. They told him that they knew the VA wasn’t going to pay for it but they were very aware of how ineffective the ancillary clinics are. Sure enough – by the time they had his room ready it was confirmed that there was cancer in his upper lobe. All of this is to tell you how I can not show how much pain I am in (except for the days when I have charlie horses on both inside and outside of the thigh, the calfs and abdomen AT THE SAME TIME. Screaming in that case is not voluntary. So – back to the meds – she informs me that next month they will take it down 30 mg a day next month and the next month – you see where this is going. I told her that I have had to go to the local ER twice -(note: the VA paid the bill without any interference by me) to have a muscle relieving shot. What ever it is WOW – make all the pain go away and the world look rosy and I could even walk to my car! It lasted for 2 hours (that happens during the months where the VA “Forgets” to release my meds and it takes an average of 3 emails to Washington, DC and 3 cc to Ron Nessler – I figure when my partner is gone – – – -…
Have to make same choice in Ohio,don’t know what to do.
There are few options left for pain patients, but if you get desperate, you might try to find a doctor that will prescribe buprenorphine. Or look into ways to access cannabis. Unless you’re already taking antidepressants, I wouldn’t suggest that option. The only other option is kratom, but I haven’t tried that… yet.
If you’re forced into detox, I’ve read that taking MucinexDM can help with the side effects. You can find further information on drug user websites. Not that I’m suggesting you try any of these options, but it’s nice to know there are a few left.
Facing the same situation in Ohio and the same decision. AVN for 17yrs and 60 surgeries
Stories like this will not see the light of day, especially if they don’t include the name of the victim. Because suicide is viewed as shameful, many families will refuse to publicize their loss. And those that do usually blame the drugs and end up advocating for the side of the opioid war. (The voices of the family are not the true voices of the victims.) Just another reason why the media coverage is so biased against us.
I can not tell you what goes through the mind of a chronic pain patient when they resort to suicide, oh wait! I can! I tried 5 times I was not cut off my meds I was prescribed more and more between pain meds and psychic meds I was up to 13 I’d tried eating 150 amitriptyline to cutting my wrist in both directions. Before I became so ill I never thought of ending my life it’s not selfish it’s an exit because the pain is day in and day out there is not “break” one doctor told me chronic pain is not life threatening I beg to differ but since I suck at suicide I was blessed to find an herb actually a few but the one that is my saving grace is kratom it manages my pain better than fenyntal opana endocet and levels my mood better than Prozac or viibryd I also use skullcap that’s replaced gabapentin today I have a life again and now the FDA is trying to ban it Why? because Big Pharma is not making money off it I’m NOT anti pharmaceutical in fact I had to take a pain pill this evening 1st one in 4 months but I’ve found these herbs work BETTER and I have no ill side effects So why is my govt trying to take much needed Rx then trying to take alternative herbs from us and wonder why we keep killing ourselves? It was the ONLY way out it was NEVER selfish in fact it was mercy at least when I tried. I was fully aware of what I was doing and why I was doing it I was not depressed I was not lost I hurt and I just wanted it to stop. I am so sorry for your loss please know it was too much to bare not selfish this is coming from a lady who had nothing left to loose.
This is unacceptable!
My deepest condolences to the survivors of this mis-treated pain patient! I cannot imagine what you are going through!
Every single time I read something like this it makes me feel like we are living the “PURGE ANARCHY”. Have you ever seen that movie?
This is how it applies to this story… The government manipulates this “OPIOID epidemic” to make it sound like they are some fucking hero. When, in actuality, they are wanting population control by strangling the poor & pained until they commit suicide. Then the government has one less problem. The government looks innocent & they aren’t done, the manipulate the death to make it sound like the “pills” were the problem.
Don’t fucking think so! It’s the shit healthcare.
When people are properly monitored & treated, this shit doesn’t happen!
(Excuse my language, desperate times call for desperate measures, and this is MAR LEE crying out in desperation for her loving HUSBAND who is in PAIN)
How many more?
This is what happens when the pain in unbearable, but somebody at the “Pain Intensity is Senseless and So Meaningless” club decided this person was a cry baby. She should just suck it up, after all she’s probably making it up anyway.
What makes people in the “PISSM” club think they have the right to demean the suffering of sick people? They have the DEA, CDC and the opiophobes, press included, in tow. Their sad little money train is running over chronic pain patients like the cattle scoops on the old trains of yesteryear, just ploughing us all down.
We are, after all, in the way and we may be the ONLY thing slowing down PISSM.
Steve this is a very sad turn of event my condolence to the family and also to you. This is very unfortunate and its happening all over. As I said in a post before in the Delray area of Florida the elderly are committing suicide by the dozens everyday. My friend who I grew up with lost his wife to suicide last Friday because she could not get the medication she needed for stenosis in her back. Now I go to a pain specialist and every time i go to fill my meds I get a hard time, the tech told me she don’t feel comfortable fill that cocktail my pain management specialist has me on. So I told her flat out, you are a tech not a pharmacist so who the hell are you to not only be practicing pharmacy with out a lisence, but also practicing medicine with out a lisence. Then I told her I will be back in one hour and if my ligit script if not filled you are going to wish to god you never said what you said to me. I told her remember when I handed you these scripts I told you I’d be recording the transaction in which I have the whole transaction on video and audio. Long story short I went back in one hour and all my meds were ready. The funny thing is I never recorded the conversation. I forget to do it, but chalk one of me. But it does look like I will wind up going out the same way as your friend and that is because of the pharmacys refusal to fill my meds. And it will wind up at that point if I have to take my own life because they want you to kill your self Iam going to be so mad that they want me to suffer, somebody’s going to be held responsible. Right then and there.
Heartbroken ……