The majority of generic drugs are manufactured overseas, and “the FDA was essentially regulating on an honor system

‘Scary World’ of Generic Drug Manufacturing, Revealed

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/914067#vp_1

In 2008, investigative journalist Katherine Eban started digging into the generic drug industry after hearing stories of patients whose generic drugs were not working properly for them. They had been stable on a branded drug, but then relapsed once switched to a generic version or experienced troubling side effects when switched between generics. She detailed her findings in a series of articles in the magazines Self and Fortune, and her new book, Bottle of Lies .

Katherine Eban. Robert Falck

The majority of generic drugs are manufactured overseas, and “the [US Food and Drug Administration] FDA was essentially regulating on an honor system,” Eban told Medscape Medical News. The agency would announce its inspections of overseas manufacturing plants weeks or months in advance, giving companies an opportunity to prepare to put on a good face and mislead inspectors with fabricated data.

In the course of Eban’s reporting, she obtained 20,000 internal FDA documents that “revealed that the FDA’s investigators have grave doubts about the quality of the drugs being manufactured at these plants,” she said. But FDA officials minimized the investigators’ findings.

Eban spoke with Medscape Medical News about the implications of her findings for clinicians. The following is a lightly edited account of the conversation.

Medscape Medical News: What do you think doctors and other healthcare professionals need to know about the state of generic drugs?

Katherine Eban: In the book I feature several doctors from the Cleveland Clinic who struggled with this question of the quality of generics. A number of heart transplant patients suffered organ rejection after being switched to a generic tacrolimus. And also a number of patients who were followed by a cardiologist who became very intently focused on this question and felt he couldn’t stabilize them on certain generics.

He actually identified drugs that were particularly problematic, and after he identified them, lo and behold, the FDA went into the plants, found egregious conditions, and those drugs were recalled. So he was observing something that really is going on.

What I think physicians need to understand is, if their patient is not responding as anticipated from a medication, they need to consider the possibility that it is the medication that is the problem. So instead of just increasing a dose, or switching a patient to a different therapy altogether, I think they need to consider, is this the manufacturer of this generic? Is there a better generic that I can get the patient switched to? Or do I need to make a case to the patient’s insurance company that they should be on the brand? And it’s just a kind of category of thought that physicians need to have.

What role did physicians play in helping these issues come to light?

The doctors that I’ve talked to who have become aware of this, and have petitioned the FDA about this, I think [they] played a major role in having this come to light.

I think without their clinical vigilance, I’m not sure it ever would have come to light. But it’s no accident that it took me essentially 10 years of reporting to produce this book. It’s very complicated. And it requires a lot of connecting of the dots, from clinical symptoms, to the global drug supply, to regulatory failures, to what’s actually happening in these manufacturing plants. It’s a lot of data points to line up. And I think that’s one of the reasons why it hasn’t really come to light before this.

What discovery from your reporting for this book surprised you the most?

The level of data fabrication is really extraordinary. I’ll give you an example.

Because of some of the findings in the plants, the FDA ran a pilot program in India, from 2014 to mid-2015. They decided all the inspections were going to be unannounced or on very short notice, which obviously should be the standard. Once they started going into these plants completely unannounced, what they discovered was just staggering.

The plants operate data fabrication teams that come in in advance of FDA inspections. They alter data, they invent documents, they even invent standard operating procedures that don’t exist. One plant steamed them overnight to make the documents look old. They found out another plant was completely fabricating its testing to prove that the plant was sterile. There were no tests. The laboratory that was doing this was testing nothing, and all their data were perfect. So that’s an example of the kind of depth and extent of the fraud in these plants. It’s shocking.

Is there anything that doctors can do to help their patients avoid these poor-quality generic drugs?

Once doctors become aware of this issue, as their patients have symptoms, or as they have difficulty, I think [doctors] will find that there are certain manufacturers where they have repeated problems, and then when they switch to different manufacturers, everything is OK.

As difficult as it sounds, I think that doctors really have to get to know some of these manufacturers. I think the medical community and the patient community have taken it pretty much on faith from the FDA that all the drugs are interchangeable. That you can just switch from one brand to a generic or between generics and it’s all the same, except that’s really not the case. Once doctors become aware of that, I believe you’re going to find that drugs from certain companies are pretty reliable, and drugs from other companies are not, and that becomes a way to get to the bottom of this more quickly.

What is the role of listening to patients about their reactions after switching to a new generic drug?

Listening to patients is absolutely vital. In the first article I wrote about this, I interviewed this woman who was switched at the pharmacy from a brand name to a generic antidepressant, and had just a horrible set of reactions and side effects. [She] ended up going from doctor to doctor to try to treat all those side effects because she didn’t realize that it was her generic. She finally went online and began doing her own research and began to connect the dots and realize that the onset of her symptoms was at the point that she was switched to a new medication. She called her doctor’s office and the nurse at the doctor’s office said, “Yeah, we hear this from a lot of patients.” Had she had that information previously, she would not have been on this horrible medical odyssey.

Doctors can play a huge role in helping patients with this. Frankly, we need new legislation around this, but that’s not going to happen anytime soon, most likely. So until these problems can get addressed, doctors are really the front line in dealing with it.

What about the role of pharmacists?

My impression is that most pharmacists don’t really know about these issues, and that they also don’t really know where drugs are manufactured. It’s not their fault. What they know is what they have on the shelf at any given time, which is in these big bottles that they’re filling prescriptions from. I think a lot of states don’t even require pharmacies to maintain records of which manufacturer they dispense. The recalls often don’t even get down to the patient level because of that.

To the extent that they talk to consumers, I think [pharmacists] can play a key role in helping them. For example, there are manufacturers whose drugs I won’t take. And my pharmacist knows that I’m a bit of a pain when I go to fill a prescription, but there are just certain companies — because I know that they fabricated data, that their plants are not sterile, that they’ve gotten FDA warning letters — I won’t take a prescription filled with their medicines. And my pharmacist knows that. They let me switch to a different manufacturer. I often am requesting specific generic manufacturers that I trust more than others. But I think if the pharmacist doesn’t understand these issues, that’s going to seem like very strange behavior to them. So it’s something I think that they need to be educated about, too.

One thing that I know a lot of experts in this space really think is important is putting the country of origin, of manufacturing, on dispensing labels. Why shouldn’t consumers know where the active ingredient and the finished drug are made? Why isn’t that information passed along to patients? That is something that could be a sort of educational tool for everybody in this space.

In addition to your book, what are some other key resources to keep up to date on what’s happening with generic drugs at the FDA and which manufacturers have an issue?

On the FDA website there are links to warning letters and import alerts. There’s another site that I like a lot called FDAzilla, which has all of the documents related to FDA inspections on it. If your patient is reacting badly to a drug made by company X, you could go into FDAzilla and look up the inspection record of that company. But for busy physicians, it’s not so easy.

The category of findings related to falsification is called data integrity. The whole idea behind “good manufacturing practices” is that you can’t test the quality of a million pills in a batch. So consequently, good manufacturing requires a kind of minute-by-minute creation of data that accompanies each step of the manufacturing practice. And that data is considered the cornerstone of good manufacturing practices. Without that data, there’s no way to vouch for a drug’s quality. If a company has data-integrity issues, it’s a pretty scary world. It means that there is a real possibility that they’re committing fraud. Not a guarantee, because you can have data-integrity findings that are not necessarily fraud, but negligence, or just problems, but it’s kind of a red flag. And that’s something for doctors to be aware of.

Doctors who are inclined to be political about this should contact their lawmakers. Because it’s really a very difficult, almost intolerable situation that we’re in. I think there needs to be medical activism on this issue.

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Another example of LEO believes laws are not for them to obey and enforce ?

Utah nurse reaches $500,000 settlement in dispute over her arrest for blocking cop from drawing blood from patient

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/31/utah-nurse-arrested-for-blocking-cop-from-drawing-blood-from-patient-receives-500000-settlement/

University Hospital nurse Alex Wubbels has agreed to a $500,000 payment to settle a dispute over her arrest by a Salt Lake City police officer after she barred him from drawing blood from an unconscious patient, her attorney said Tuesday.

Attorney Karra Porter said at a news conference that the agreement with Salt Lake City and the University of Utah covers all parties and takes the possibility of legal action off the table. “There will be no lawsuit,” she said.

The arrest drew widespread condemnation after Porter released police body camera and hospital security footage of the encounter on Aug. 31.

Wubbels will use a portion of the money to help people get body camera footage, at no cost, of incidents involving themselves, she said at the news conference. In addition, Porter’s law firm, Christensen & Jensen, will provide for free any legal services necessary to obtain the video.

“We all deserve to know the truth and the truth comes when you see the actual raw footage and that’s what happened in my case,” Wubbels said. “No matter how truthful I was in telling my story, it was nothing compared to what people saw and the visceral reaction people experienced when watching the footage of the experience that I went through.”

Wubbels said she also will make a donation to the Utah Nurses Association and will help spearhead the #EndNurseAbuse campaign by the American Nurses Association.

Porter said she hopes the discussion about the need for police body cameras continues and noted that the footage also protects law enforcement officers.

The July 26 encounter leading to Wubbels’ arrest began when she refused to allow Salt Lake City Detective Jeff Payne to draw blood from an unconscious patient who had been involved in a fiery crash in Cache County earlier in the day.

Wubbels pointed out that the crash victim was not under arrest, that Payne did not have a warrant to obtain the blood and that he could not obtain consent because the man was unconscious.

Payne insisted he had implied consent to get the blood and eventually arrested Wubbels. He handcuffed her and placed her in a police car outside the hospital, then released her after about 20 minutes. Charges were never filed against the nurse.

Wubbels is heard on footage of the incident asking a University police officer to protect her because Payne had threatened her with arrest. The U. officer informed the nurse that if she interfered with Payne’s investigation, she would be obstructing justice and he would not prevent the detective from arresting her.

The footage shows that as Payne moves to arrest Wubbels — grabbing and chasing her — she screams and backs into the U. police officer. The officer places a hand on Wubbels’ shoulder, apparently assisting Payne. (Other hospital employees appear to try and talk Payne down as the arrest is taking place.)

On Sept. 13, Salt Lake City Mayor Jackie Biskupski announced an internal affairs investigation had found Payne and Lt. James Tracy violated several department policies during their interaction with Wubbels. A review by the city’s independent Police Civilian Review Board also found the officers violated department policies.

Police Chief Mike Brown fired Payne on Oct. 10 and demoted Tracy to the rank of officer. Both men have appealed the punishment to the Salt Lake City Civil Service Commission.

Wubbels said Tuesday she hopes the disciplinary measures are upheld. “I will
be very disappointed if they aren’t,” she said.

The patient at the center of the controversy was 43-year-old William Gray, a full-time truck driver and a part-time reserve officer with the Rigby, Idaho, police department. He was severely burned on nearly half of his body in the July 26 crash and died Sept. 25.

A man in a pickup truck who was fleeing from the Utah Highway Patrol collided head-on with Gray’s semi on U.S. 89/91 near Sardine Canyon, according to Logan police, who investigated the crash. The pickup’s driver, Marcos Torres, 26, died at the scene.

After the crash, Logan police requested that Salt Lake City police obtain a blood sample from Gray.

Greg Skordas, Payne’s attorney, has said a federal regulation requires a blood sample when a driver with a commercial driver license (CDL) is involved in a fatal accident, and that by getting a CDL, a driver is assumed to have consented to a blood draw. Gray had a CDL and Payne wanted the sample so the injured man could keep that license, according to Skordas.

Porter has countered that the CDL regulation covers what an employer — not a law-enforcement officer — is supposed to do after an employee is in an accident. Another CDL regulation adopts states’ implied consent law but Utah’s statute specifically requires reasonable suspicion that a person was intoxicated before a sample can be taken, she said.

A criminal investigation into the arrest — which involves the Unified Police Department, the FBI and the Salt Lake County District Attorney’s Office — continues.

Not the first government wanting to assign unique “numbers” to its citizens.. last.. National Socialist Workers Party of Germany

 

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U.S. House approves measure to prevent ‘doctor shopping’

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/u-s-house-approves-measure-to-prevent-doctor-shopping/article_708906a2-9785-11e9-b017-279c2900bda1.html

Congress has approved of lifting a ban on giving medical patients a unique identifier as part of an effort to prevent the practice of doctor shopping for addictive painkillers and reduce medical mix-ups.

Congressman Bill Foster, a Democrat from Naperville, Illinois, introduced the amendment that was approved earlier this month as part of a $99.4 billion United States Department of Health and Human Services appropriations bill. 

He said the measure would go a long way to fight the practice of doctor shopping for more prescription pain pills amid a deadly opioid crisis. Doctor shopping involves visiting multiple doctors to obtain multiple prescriptions for pills.

“This would not only guard against doctor shopping by those who are struggling with substance abuse disorder, but could also prevent those in recovery from accidentally being given prescription opioids after an injury, surgery, or childbirth, triggering a relapse,” Foster when he introduced the amendment.

Specifically, assigning a unique number to a patient would give doctors a way to immediately identify a patient’s medical history. 

Pennsylvania Republican Mike Kelly said it would lower the cost of medical mix-ups due to misidentification. 

“Lives have been lost and medical errors have needlessly occurred,” he said, sharing a story about his elderly father nearly being given the wrong medication during a hospital stay.

“These are situations that could have been entirely avoidable and patients would have been able to have been accurately identified and matched with their records,” Kelly said.

Opponents of an identifier have said it opens up health records to unwanted surveillance or privacy breaches, suggesting biometric identifiers would have the same benefit without assigning a number to people. Others have said it is the first step to nationalizing the private healthcare industry.

Each of us have a few unique identifiers… all digital  FACIAL RECOGNITION,  digital Finger Prints, digital optical scan… we don’t need any FRIGGIN UNIQUE NUMERIC IDENTIFIER…  They need current digital technology… instead of playing a “number’s game”

WA: fentanyl-related deaths doubled since 2017.. methamphetamine became the most common drug associated with overdose deaths for the first time

Drug-related deaths continue to rise in King County

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/drug-related-deaths-continue-to-rise-in-king-county/

Drug-related deaths have continued to climb in King County, with fatal overdoses involving methamphetamine and fentanyl on the rise, according to Public Health — Seattle & King County.

Last year, 415 King County residents died from drug or alcohol use — up from 379 in 2017, according to a report released Tuesday by Public Health. Of those who died, 20% to 25% had been drinking alcohol but mostly in combination with other drugs.

Public Health found that 77 percent of people who died had multiple substances in their system. Fatal overdoses from prescription opioids and heroin have remained stable in recent years, while fentanyl-related deaths doubled since 2017, climbing to 66 last year. Illicit opioids were involved in the most deaths overall, but methamphetamine became the most common drug associated with overdose deaths for the first time, as The Seattle Times reported last month.

Could denial of pain care for EVERYONE… be a good thing for the chronic pain community ?

Question- I am a 65 year old disabled female.  Have dealt with pain for past 20 years.  My opioid dose was cut in half in 2014 along with so many others.  I have taken the same amount, 70 mg (85meq) for worsening conditions, cervicalgia, dystonia, as well as joint hyper mobility since 2014.  Life is painful every day regardless.  There isn’t much left to my life.  I can’t travel well, my mobility has decreased, most all items are delivered, my life is confined to my home for most part.

Yesterday, I had surgery to (1) re-sect margins on a malignant melanoma on my back and (2) do a nipple biopsy on my breast.  I was told that since I already take pain meds, the surgeon was ‘between a rock & a hard place’ with being able to prescribe any additional meds.  I had received pre-op forms explaining that pain meds would be prescribed for all surgery patients, so I was confused, but tried to be understanding-  Until the drugs from surgery wore off yesterday afternoon. 

The dr explained to my husband right after surgery that my breast would be very painful for several days.  No joke.  I cried most of the night.  I am tolerant, obviously, to the amount that I am accustomed to taking for fibromyalgia & degenerative issues, labral tear in hip, subluxation shoulder causing unbelievable thoracic pain in back left shoulder blade area.  The amount of medication that I have is not enough to cover post surgical pain as well.  I will run out before time for my next fill because of the surgery.

The surgery center called this a.m. to see how I was feeling.  I explained I had been awake most of the night, hurting all night, having to take something every hour and a half, and still burning, stinging pain within my breast.  The nurse said, “well, you have pain meds to take, correct?” I replied that I do, but I am shorting myself later in the month.  If she understood, she was unfazed.

Steve, I need a sanity check- am I being unreasonable?  Should I have to suffer through this after surgery just because I am already in an amount of pain that is being barely managed?  By the way, my family dr manages my pain, conservatively.  He stated before the procedure that he could write more meds offering me a tramadol prescription but I probably wouldn’t be able to have it filled.  He convinced me I definitely need the surgeries, to go forward with them, and if I run out, he will try to figure something out.  Am I missing something?  Is this not what pain meds were designed to do?  My pain during the winters keeps me bed-bound.  My doctor has also said he would have my knees redone but he wouldn’t be able to control my pain?

This is way beyond discouraging.  It’s been hard enough to accept that the medical community can do no more than barely keep me comfortable.  I like my primary care doctor. And have no ill feelings toward surgeon, hospital, or anyone, except those who have laid out unrealistic limits for patients who are suffering already.  I have been disabled for nearly 10 years.    During my working career, I carried a top secret clearance with the same government that has me categorized as opioid tolerant.  I might as well be on the street corner looking for drugs.  I have been misjudged by pharmacists among others in healthcare.  I have never asked for my med early, I have never failed a drug test, and am fully compliant with everything my dr has asked.  This practice is discouraging future health procedures based on past pain experiences and i feel a form of discrimination.  How can this be happening?

Is this average?  I will make it thru this somehow, but God forbid, should I need another preventative procedure, I won’t be able to.  Tell me others are not having to suffer like this. 

Thank you for reading.

Just imagine in days.. months to come… how many “regular people” are going to go under surgery or have a accident that at the very least causes them some substantial pain..  According to this https://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_surgeries_are_done_in_the_us_every_year  there is an estimated 40 million elective surgeries in the USA EVERY YEAR… that is 110,000 surgeries PER DAY.

How many of these surgery pts don’t experience some sort of on going/long term pain before their surgery and they wake up from surgery to be told that they will be given TYENOL/ACETAMINOPHEN to help them deal with their pain.  How many of these pt and their family going to “go ballistic” about how they or their family member has been allowed to suffer post surgery ?

How much is their pain and/or frustration is going to be calmed by being told that the healthcare system “don’t want them to become addicted” and that is why they have to just “suffer thru for a few days or a week” ?

Not all surgeries produce “excellent outcomes” and how many pts end up with worse pain or end up with chronic pain post surgery ? All of these new little/no pain management post surgery pts & family going to be “more active” in filing complaints with various agencies over how they or their family were treated poorly or allowed to suffer in pain.  The existing chronic pain community may be acquiring new and more active & vocal allies.

 

OK: J&J Trial … Opioid Trial – Day 27: Morning Session

PA: Congresswoman makes emotional reveal on House floor

Congresswoman makes emotional reveal on House floor

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/27/susan-wild-partner-suicide-kerry-acker-speech-sot-vpx.cnn

Rep. Susan Wild, a freshman Pennsylvania Democrat, revealed her partner’s recent death was a suicide and said she is sharing her story because “I do not want anyone else to suffer.”

Pain Societies Told to Disclose Financial Ties to Opioid Makers

Pain Societies Told to Disclose Financial Ties to Opioid Makers

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/915133

The US Senate Finance Committee is demanding that pain societies and advocacy groups disclose any and all payments received from opioid manufacturers.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), who heads the committee, and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), the minority leader, sent letters to 10 organizations asking about their financial relationships with opioid makers and other medical entities that manufacture products to treat pain.

“As Chairman and Ranking Member of the Senate Finance Committee, we have a responsibility to ensure transparency and accountability in matters that directly affect Federal healthcare programs and tax-exempt organizations. This responsibility includes examining the extent to which pharmaceutical manufacturers fund tax-exempt organizations and how these payments may influence pain treatment practices and policy,” the senators write.

The letters were sent to the American Chronic Pain Association, the American Pain Society, the American Society for Pain Management Nursing, the American Society of Pain Educators, the Center for Practical Bioethics, the Federation of State Medical Boards, the Joint Commission, the American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, the Alliance for Patient Access, and the International Association for the Study of Pain.

The Senate Finance Committee has a long history of investigating pharmaceutical manufacturers and their ties to tax-exempt entities that influence pain treatment practices and policy, the senators point out in their letter.

Sen. Wyden recently identified several individuals and tax-exempt organizations with “significant” financial ties to opioid manufacturers who have been appointed to various federal panels charged with making decisions and recommendations relating to opioid prescribing practices, the letter states.

Accountability Needed

In December 2018, Wyden launched an investigation to examine conflicts within medical advisory boards and asked the Department of Health and Human Services for information relating to “apparent conflicts” within its Pain Management Best Practices Inter-Agency Task Force (Task Force), as well as Task Force members affiliated with the US Pain Foundation and the American Academy of Pain Medicine.

“Based on information from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services’ Open Payments database, some members on the Task Force have received tens of thousands of dollars from opioid manufacturers.

“It is imperative that Congress ensure that these organizations and their members are adequately disclosing these conflicts to the Federal government to ensure that their guidance remains objective and transparent to the medical community and to patients,” the senators write.

Federal data show that every day in the United States, about 130 people die after overdosing on opioids, including prescription pain relievers, heroin, and synthetic opioids, such as fentanyl.

The total economic burden of prescription opioid misuse alone tops $78 billion a year. This figure includes the costs of healthcare, lost productivity, addiction treatment, and criminal justice involvement.

“These figures demonstrate that the US continues to suffer from an opioid epidemic and that taking prescription opioids for an extended period of time or in higher doses increase a patient’s risk of opioid addiction, overdose, and death,” Grassley and Widen write.

“At the same time, the relationship between opioid manufacturers and non-profit medical organizations remains robust, which calls into question their ability to make impartial recommendations to the medical community and to patients on opioid prescribing practices,” they add.

The senators acknowledge in the letter that the answer to the opioid epidemic continues to be “anything but simple. However, we believe that it is important to shed light on these financial relationships to ensure transparency and accountability in matters that affect Federal healthcare programs and the patients that participate in them,” they write.

The committee has asked that the requested information be sent by July 29, 2019.

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American Pain Society Goes Belly Up

Opioid lawsuit costs prompt membership to approve bankruptcy filing

Is there a organized effort to SILENCE chronic pain advocacy groups ?

 

WALMART: 3% Rx dept staff cut AND up to 40% being SENIORS – isn’t that age discrimination ?

Walmart reportedly reducing number of pharmacy employees

https://www.drugstorenews.com/retail-news/walmart-reportedly-reducing-number-of-pharmacy-employees/

Walmart is making some changes as the nation’s health-care landscape continues to evolve.

The discounter is reducing the number of its U.S. pharmacy employees by about 3%, reported the Arkansas Democrat Gazette. A separate report in Bloomberg noted that, according to various sources, these cuts could include as much as 40% of senior pharmacy staff, as well as some new hires and part-time associates.

“We are aligning our staffing with the demands of the business to consistently serve our customers now and in the future,” Walmart said in an emailed statement. “As we continue to position our business, we are making some adjustments in health and wellness that will impact approximately 3% of our pharmacy associates. We’re actively working to place these associates in other open positions.”

The move is part of a “transformational journey” as the company invests in key growth areas, Walmart said in an emailed statement.

CVS Busted Lying To Doctors About Patients’ Prescriptions

CVS Busted Lying To Doctors About Patients’ Prescriptions

www.trofire.com/2019/06/20/cvs-busted-lying-to-doctors-about-patients-prescriptions/

A class action lawsuit alleges that CVS unlawfully sends letters to physicians falsely claiming that their patients are reaching out about prescription medications with their patients’ consent, when in reality, the messages are just marketing materials. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this with Scott Hardy from Top Class Actions.

Farron Cousins:                  One of the biggest issues according to American voters in the 2020 presidential election and pretty much in their day to day lives right now is the issue of healthcare. We’re being overcharged. We’re being overcharged by Big Pharma, we’re being overcharged by our doctors, by hospitals, by our insurance, by everyone. But you know one group that always kind of gets overlooked here is the pharmacies, right? We often forget that pharmacies have an incentive from the pharmaceutical companies to sell us certain drugs. Or to switch us out from, you know, this brand of be it diabetes medicine to this brand of diabetes medicine.

And unfortunately, CVS pharmacy has found a way to make pharmaceutical companies even happier by trying to actively get doctors to prescribe certain drugs for patients. Joining me now to explain exactly what’s happening here is Scott Hardy with Top Class Actions. Scott, there’s few industries I loathe more than pharmaceutical companies, but CVS might be creeping up there on the list because what they’re doing right now, sending out mailers to doctors, is absolutely appalling. Tell us what’s happening. I want you to tell us this story. It’s absolutely amazing.

Scott Hardy:                          Sure. It’s, it’s really shocking because you know, we all expect and we hope that our pharmacies will call our doctors to refill a prescription, that’s expected. Whenever your prescriptions out, they say, hey, can we call your doctor and, and refill it for you? Yes, absolutely take care of that. But this class action is stating that CVS is being much more proactive and without your permission, is reaching out to doctors and sending out letters to doctors saying that you need this medication. Can we get your permission now? Can you send over a prescription for you? And they’re doing that without notifying you.

And an interesting piece of this is that, you know, this isn’t the, hey, we’re trying to help you out. We’re trying to get your doctor to send these prescriptions without your permission. No, it’s, it’s a big part of the class action is saying that CVS is using you, the consumer to market. Now, CVS is obviously going to make money on selling these prescriptions that they’re hitting the doctor up for. But you as the individual consumer, you’re not getting paid for that marketing, but they’re using your medical information to market their services to make them money. And that’s what was really eye-opening about this class action.

Farron Cousins:                  Right and the plaintiff in this case, you know, says that he, he went back to his doctor and then the doctor asked him, said, oh, you’re, you’re looking at, you know, why, why would you want this medicine? Why, why did you ask your pharmacy about it? Because that’s what CVS is saying, hey, you know, your customer or your patient, excuse me, asked us about, and they want to get on it. So maybe you should, you know, give them the prescription. That’s also another part of it. And the patient said what, I never had that conversation with anybody.

What are you talking about? And that’s, you know, kind of how this whole story unraveled. But it’s now also in this person’s medical chart that they had asked, even though they didn’t for a particular medication. And of course, any doctor that’s, that’s worth, you know, going to in this country is not going to look kindly on having it in somebody’s chart. Like, oh, this person comes in asking for specific medicines. That’s a red flag for doctors.

They’re going to tell you that they don’t, they don’t like people coming in and saying, I want this particular medicine. So it’s a problem all around for these consumers. But it’s obviously a bigger problem for CVS using these people’s information without their knowledge against their will and trying to give them medications that they in some instances likely don’t even need at all. So yeah. Big Problem here for CVS.

Scott Hardy:                          Yeah, it is. I mean, from possible, you know, healthcare law violations to just completely stepping out of bounds according to this class action on their actual customer’s rights. I mean, if you’re a CVS customer, you’ve got to be very concerned about this, about them sending letters on your behalf without your permission. And so this one will be really interesting to watch as it makes its way through the court system as to, what was, what they were doing illegal?

How does this actually, was this a, a far reaching marketing ploy that they’re using for all CVS pharmacies? Now what exactly is happening here and how can we as consumers make sure this is stopped? We don’t want to get our health be used and marketed as a ploy to make CVS more money or other pharmacies.

Farron Cousins:                  Absolutely. This is something obviously as time goes on, we’re going to learn a lot more about this and based on what we’ve seen, both you and I with lawsuits in the past, I, I’m almost certain that the more we learn about this, the worst CVS is going to end up looking. For more information about this issue, please follow the link in the description of this video. Go to topclassactions.com and while you’re there make sure you sign up for their newsletter. It is filled with all the information consumers need to be aware of. Scott Hardy, Top Class Actions. Thank you very much for talking with me.

Scott Hardy:                          You’re welcome. Thanks for your time Farron.