Well I have reached out to the buprenorphine advocates a long time ago .. I’V reached out to state senators doctors pharmacies …I mean I have exhausted so so many options …I’m grasping at straws now .. I watched TN pass bill 871 last year which has some good things in it ,but it also has a lot of bad..one being they made the generic form of suboxone illegal. Subutex which is the same medication… buprenorphine is the opiate blocker not the naloxone ..naloxone only deters I’v users from abusing the suboxone. .. so the state of tn takes away a medication that was helping thousands at a cost of about $1 to $3 per tablet and forces these patients on to a $10 to $17 each medication .. thousands across the state had to stop drug treatment due to cost .. this bill also has a section about TNCARE and pregnant females …they pay 100% for pregnant females .. it does not take a genius to figure out where an addicts mind went with this new law .. AH HA!! THEY CAN GET PREGNANT TO STAY IN TREATMENT that’s saved their life and given them stability ..for most this is the best their life has ever been …so they get pregnant because loosing the generic with it now being Illegal and the price increase PREGNANCY IS THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN AFFORD treatment. . The state NOW foots the bill 100% ….and all these babies being born addicted. .TN ONLY CAUSED THE NUMBER OF ADDICTED BABIES TO GROW WITH THEIR OWN IGNORANT BILLS ..oh by the way call a senator who supported bill 871 THEY CAN’T EVEN EXPLAIN IT TO YOU! ! LOL..THEY SUPPORTED A BILL THEY DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND! ! so the state passes a law any mother who has any drugs in their system has to get into treatment or be prosecuted for child neglect or abuse /endangerment. .. Ok think about one who fails a drug screen for pot ONLY ..that’s a situation I recently saw ..OK state law says get in treatment or go to jail and loose your child. .THEY CAN’T GET INTO ANY TREATMENT. .the only thing they can find is methadone or suboxone …the rest they can’t afford .. or has they have year to 5 YR waiting list … so the girl who fails for pot gets into the suboxone program ..THAT’S INTENDED FOR OPIATE ADDICTION ..oh they take her cause that’s money the r making. .. she tries to do what they tell her and take the suboxone ..THE STATE JUST CAUSED SOMEONE ONLY SMOKING POT TO GET A BIG MONKEY ON THEIR BACK ..A WORSE ADDICTION. .BECAUSE THEIR NON THOUGHT OUT LAWS !! SO THE MOTHER GOES TO THIS SUBOXONE DOCTOR EVERY MONTH HAS CLEAN DRUG SCREENS. .IS DOING GREAT HAS NO CLUE SHE WAS BETTER OFF ONLY SMOKING POT AT THIS POINT. .BUT ALL IS WELL SHE WON’T GO TO JAIL AND SHE WILL GET TO KEEP HER BABY …WRONG !! SHE GOES INTO LABOUR HAS THE CHILD. .WELL GUESS WHAT IN THE STATE OF TN IT IS MANDATORY TO INVOLVE DCS IF THE MOTHERS R ON METHADONE OR SUBOXONE TREATMENT FOR ADDICTION AS A SO CALLED “PRECAUTION”. . WHAT SHLD BE ONE OF THE MOST MEMORABLE TIMES IN A MOTHERS LIFE IS TURNED INTO A NIGHTMARE !! DCS TAKES MANY OF THESE BABIES ..THEY NEVER GO HOME WITH THE MOTHER …BECAUSE SHE IS IN DRUG TREATMENT THE STATE FORCED HER INTO!! …DCS NORMALLY IF THE MOTHERS GETS TO GO HOME WITH THE BABY DOES SHIT LIKE …COURT ORDERS MOST TO DO DRUG AND ALCOHOL ASSESSMENTS , PARENTING CLASSES, BLAH BLAH BLAH….THEY GO DO THIS ASSESSMENT..GUESS WHAT THEY TELL THEM WE RECOMMEND U WING DOWN AND COME OFF THE SUBOXONE .. HERE IS WHERE THE HELL COMES IN … THEY CAN’T DO IT ..NOT IN THE 6 MONTHS OR LESS DCS AND COURTS GIVE THEM TO DO THIS .. THEY TRY AND TRY THEY R DECREASING EVERY MONTH .. WELL DCS ENDS UP TAKING THE CHILD. . THEY DIDN’T COME OFF SUBOXONE .. THEY HAD A LEGAL PERSCRIPTION FOR THIS MED. AND LOOSE THEIR CHILD OVER SOMETHING THE STATE FORCED UPON THEM.. CHECK THE NUMBERS ON BABIES BORN ADDICTED ..CHECK THE NUMBERS ON CHILDREN IN TN TAKEN INTO STATE CUSTODY IN THESE SITUATIONS .. U WILL SEE TN CREATED THEIR OWN PERFECT STORM .. IS SAD TO SIT BACK AND SEE THIS .. I SAW ONE MOTHER THEY TOLD HER IN OCTOBER COME OFF SUBOXONE HER BABY IS 3 MONTHS OLD .. NOVEMBER SHE WENT TO THE DOCTOR GOT HER PERSCRIPTION CUT HER DOSE TO WING DOWN AND OFF BY THE END OF DECEMBER ..2ND WEEK OF DECEMBER DCS COMES TO HER HOME DRUG TESTS HER AND SHE FAILS FOR SUBOXONE. .GUESS WHAT NO DECEMBER PERSCRIPTION …ONLY THE NOVEMBER ONE ..THEY TOOK HER CHILD THAT DAY! ! I PERSONALLY SAW THIS GIRL GO FROM HEROIN JUNKY TO CLEAN WORKING STABLE MOTHER ONLY TAKING SUBOXONE… 2 YRS GOOD TIME .CLEAN DRUG SCREENS FORCED TO STOP TAKING SOMETHING THAT SAVED HER LIFE AND HER CHILD TAKEN .. NOW FOLLOWING BILL 871 ALL THESE PHARMACIES HAVE INCREASED THE PRICE SO MUCH THAT DRUG TREATMENT SUBOXONE IS COSTING AN AVERAGE 1,200$ TO 2,500 A MONTH EVERY MONTH !! ALSO TNCARE STARTED A LIFE TIME 2 YEAR CAP …THEY ONLY PAY FOR BUPRENORPHINE PRODUCTS 2 A DAY 6 MONTHS THEN 1 A DAY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF ..THEN AT 2 YRS 0$ NO MORE NEVER AGAIN THAT’S IT !! RELAPSE HUH WHAT’S THAT ?? THE STATE OF TN THINKS THEY R FIXING DRUG ADDICTS IN 2 YEARS.. ALL ON THE SAME DOSE.. WITH THE SAME TREATMENT PLAN.. AND THAT RELAPSE IS NON EXISTING .. THEY ALL GO BACK TO PAIN PILLS ..NO 2 YR CAP ..NO HEAD ACHES ..TNCARE PAYS FOR THEM 100% ..NO LAWS TELLING U THE GENERIC OXYCOTTIN IS NOW ILLEGAL ..LOL NOPE …IT’S A PAIN PILL EPIDEMIC THAT’S BEEN TURNED INTO A FREE FOR ALL BY OUR OWN STATE OFFICIALS ..BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO DAMN CLUE OR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON ..
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Although Tennessee is one of the worst examples, this is happening all over the country. I’ve read that some pharmacies won’t sell bupe to men, I can’t even remember why. If you’re fighting for pregnant women, this study may help:
http://advocatesforpregnantwomen.org/Opioid%20Open%20Letter%20-%20March%202013%20-%20FINAL.pdf
No I’m not fighting for pregnant women IM fighting for what’s right !! The PREGNANCY ISSUE IS just one of the worst things I’m seeing in TN..YOU R RIGHT THEY Wont give men subutex buprenorphine with out naloxone !! Isn’t that insanity !! It’s the #1 tool /weapon we have to fight the pain pill and heroin epidemic in TN .. yet our state senators choose money .. siding with R.B.the makers of name brand suboxone over what is affordable for the patients. . They pushed everyone in TN on to name brand suboxone … YEARS AGO …RB CLAIMED they wld make a generic being the tablet form and the name brand being the strip form ..keep IN MIND THIS WAS WHEN THEY ( RB )HAD FULL RUN OF THE SUBOXONE MARKET . THE FDA SIGNED A DEAL NOT ALLOWING ANY OF PHARMACUTICAL COMPANIES TO MAKE ANOTHER BRAND OF SUBOXONE FOR 7 YRS ..(I BELIEVE IT WAS 7 YRS) ..u can look this up. . So ALL across the nation u cld only get suboxone brand IN THE STRIPS THE higher costing version. .RB SLOWED PRODUCTION OF ITS GENERIC. TABLET TO ALMOST NOTHING 0… NO ONE CLD GET THE GENERIC. .MONOPOLIZING THE MARKET FOR THEIR GAIN ..THE FDA CAUSED THIS ..THEY LET IT GO ON. . WELL GUESS WHAT THIS COMES OUT ..RB IS GETTING SUED !! THE FDA WAS QUICK TO CUT TIES .. OH THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT .. RUSHING TO THEN APPROVE SEVERAL other brands of suboxone in which u see now hitting the market. Subzolve was the first one .. THE NEWEST ONE BUNAVAIL. .IN WHICH THE STATE OF TN SIGNS A DEAL WITH BIO DELIVERY SCIENCES MAKING BUNAVAIL THEIR NEW preferred form ..meaning TN state insurance wld only cover bunavail unless you have an allergy to it …and then good luck getting them to pay out for another version .. so OCTOBER FIRST THIS NEW CHANGE WENT INTON EFFECT ..ALL TNCARE PATIENTS WLD ONLY BE GETTING BUNAVAIL. . THIS DEAL WAS IN THE WORKS FOR MONTHS .. YET OCTOBER ALL THESE PATIENTS WENT TO THE DOCTOR They R GIVEN A PERSCRIPTION FOR THIS BUNAVAIL .. GO TO THE PHARM TO FILL.. GUESS WHAT BACK ORDER … B.D.S DID NOT EVEN MAKE IT 2 DAYS INTO SUPPLYING TN … the medication HIT BACK ORDER .. SO WHAT DID THAT MEAN FOR THE STATE OF TN …THOUSANDS OF ADDICTS IN MAINTENANCE TREATMENT WLD Not have their DAILY MEDICATION. .. TN WLD SAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ..AT THE EXPENSE OF ALL THOSE ADDICTS RELAPSING , GIVING UP ?? THEY COULD NOT GET THIS NEW FORM OF THEIR MEDICATION FOR 2 TO 3 MONTHS .THOSE ADDICTS WHO RODE OUT THE STORM PAID CASH THEY HAD NO CHOICE ..BUT MANY COULD NOT PAY CASH SO THEY RELAPSED . I SAW HUNDREDS RELAPSE OVER THIS ….I SIT BACK WONDERING WHY YOU DON’T SEE ANY OF THEM SUING THE STATE ?? THEIR LIVES WERE TOYED WITH ..THEIR RECOVERY JEOPARDIZED. .. IF WE LET THEM GET AWAY WITH TELLING US A GENERIC MEDICATION IS ILLEGAL DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE NAME BRAND COMES WRAPPED IN INDIVIDUAL SEALED WRAPPERS… THEY CLAIM R MORE CHILD SAFE ?? WHAT NEXT THEY REGULATE PAIN MEDICATION BRANDS ?? DIABETIC SUPPLIES ONLY LETTING U BUY FROM THE HIGHEST SUPPLIER ?? THIS SHIT IS UNREAL .. 2 YEAR CAPS ON DRUG TREATMENT? ? YET NO CAP ON HOW LONG THEY PAY OUT FOR ANY OTHER ILLNESS. ..THAT’S LIKE SAYING U HAVE 2 YEARS TO BEAT CANCER!! ADDICTION TO THESE PATIENTS IS LIKE CANCER SLOWLY KILLING THESE PEOPLE….THEY DIDN’T ASK FOR IT AND THEY R DESPERATE TO BEAT THE ADDICTION … IF U ALL WANT TO SEE THE REIGNS loosened on the prescribing and regulating of pain medication..EVERYONE HAS TO BAN TOGETHER ON THE ADDICTION AND ABUSE END OF THIS .. DEAL WITH THE ADDICTION AND ABUSE .. MAKE TREATMENT MORE ACCESSIBLE. . STOP THIS REGULATING OF DRUG TREATMENT. . IF WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE ADDICTION SIDE IT WILL LIGHTEN THE HELL LEGITIMATE PAIN PATIENTS R HAVING TO GO THROUGH .. I HATE TO SAY IT BUT LOOK AT THE CAMPAIGN WITH SMOKING CIGARETTES TARGETING OUR YOUTH! ! IT WORKED THE NUMBERS R DOWN ..FROM THESE HARSH REALITY/TRUTH COMMERCIALS.. WE NEED TO ADDRESS ADDICTION AND ABUSE OF PERSCRIPTION PILLS IN THE SAME WAY .. SHOW THE UGLY TRUTH ..TALK ABOUT THIS MAKE IT A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.. THIS IS NOT GOING TO GET BETTER ONLY WORSE. . THEY WILL CONTINUE TILL THEY PASS BULLSHIT LAWS ALMOST STOPPING THE PERSCRIBING OF OPIATE PAIN MEDS .. THEY R WELL ON THEIR WAY IN TN TO STOPPING SUBOXONE.. LOOK THEY TOOK OUT SUBUTEX IN MERELY A FEW MONTHS .. IT’S A NIGHTMARE IN TN AND NOW HEROIN HAS HIT HARD IT’S ABOUT TO GET WAY WORSE HERE ..
I saw a recent article on the new suboxone that questions the dosages and its efficacy, something to look into for those that depend on these drugs.
I’ve read about all the problems you’re describing in internet forums for these different drugs, and now that they’re being prescribed for pain, I assume pain patients will be having similar problems. When I get emails from pain patients who are facing a reduction or termination of their medications, I have suggested bupe (as a last resort and instead of the underground market). Now, I’m not sure what to tell these patients…